Training HQ for Na ?

[Kinkin]

Hi there, This just an idea, but we already talk about making a training camp for NA members. I think we could make a common Base for whole NA members to practice on pvp. It could be a secure place where teams can fight to each others without losing stuffs, after fight people just have to come back take its goods. Do you think it could be a good thing ? I think it might better than the old idea of making modoc a training camp. This may help new NA members to be operational faster.

[Pozzo]

+ 1 for the idea

[Crazy]

Hum, there is a problem: noone gonna leave his faction to enter in this base correct? But if you are only "Friend" and you are kill in the base you can't see it anymore no?

[Kinkin]

any team could have an Alt leader to bring them back into it. But we have to test it, i'm not sure you will not see the base anymore after dying, because dying doesn't change your friend status.

[Shangalar]

It changes when you got killed in base where you are considered as friend.

[Lordus]

We had the same idea in VSB. We made some training with low equip in random city map. I think that random city map is good, because i dont think that any base is good enough to train combat in real conditions. Also we are thinking about some abadoned cities in wasteland, like Necropolis. But i heard that sometimes enemy gangs or individuals use this area to organized PvP actions. But i think that there is major problem, and that is communication. We could standartize some combat orders and procedures. I.e.: 1) Jumping into cities with 5 second countdown. 2) Reporting enemies: first number, then location, then equipment,... 3) Fast teamates reporting... 4) .....

[Tank Junior]

We are making a lot of these posts about common bases, making one faction with one name, making alt pvp chars to join the new base etc and yet we still didn't decide anything. We need to resolve another issues before moving to others. I am however proposing a meeting on mumble with all faction leaders to once and for all decide what we should make. I'm getting tired of seeing all these ideas and still we didnt realized a single one of them.

[Lordus]

Maybe it will be better, if each gang will try to make their own training program, and after getting some experience with this, we could make alliance training. VSB has already started with their own training program.

[Invité]

thats a problem for small factions,unless we want to train 2 on 2 or 3 on 3:D im also with tank on this one...one suggestion at a time and if we get NA base for pvp players that base could also be training camp. one suggestion at a time

[Constrictor]

still the general idea of making a training camp is pretty good +1 more but there are indeed some isseus with this like location being able to see the base will be the biggest one and every faction making hes own training camp its a nice idea it will be more organized but then you still have like smeghead said the problem of small faction like my own

[Lordus]

thats a problem for small factions,unless we want to train 2 on 2 or 3 on 3:D

No, the training in this small groups is excelent, because you need to learn how to cooperate with snipers and biggunners.

and if we get NA base for pvp players that base could also be training camp.
one suggestion at a time

And which base is good for PvP training? I though you must train in conditions similar to real PvP enviroment.

Are we PvP fighting in caves?

Cave, depot and midle-sized base is not enough big to train there snipers.
Outpost is big enough, but i think that we can not learn there how to fight in streets and buildings.

The main disadvantage against random city maps, or i.e. Necropolis is that, when you die there as a friend, you will lost the position of that place. If you die in random city encounter, you simply use radio to get there back.

[Constrictor]

yes but if we train in lets say necro one small group of enemies can ruin every thing and it will leek out sometime that we train there and then more enemies will show up lit red dot orso i mean its very risky training there but on the other hand it is a good place to train city pvp

[Kinkin]

We will be able to make some training when we will have the NA base operational.

[NukaCola]

I would say.. necropolis would fit for training.. but i also saw some video footage that NA was training there a while ago, teams of 5 people. but, the exit grid was blocked with crates, meaning no1 could leave and mayb even enter it. what if we use all our puppy eye powers, and ask staff for a special training ground. could be that they will say F*CK YUUU DOLPHINS! AND F*CK YOU WHAAALES! but then we say! what if you make a custom training ground for us, make it a faction base, where we will pay for. (can be e.g. 500k at once, or a weekly fee of 100k) Fallout tactics has many maps, staff could copy, or we could, because if i remember, there is a tool for creating fallout 2 maps... so, if any1 not lazy will make a map! and send it to staff, we might get lucky, or we might get even more luckier! or something like that:P NukaCola[TTS]

[Lordus]

I think that major problem is in communication, respectively in quantity and quality of information we send and get in the action.

We need quick reports about current situation. That means, information about our players, enemy players, bluesuits visitors.

That needs first to improve information exchange in every team, then inter teams.

I suggest we must make standartization of this.

Operation leader and all teams leaders (and when they will die, his backups) will have right to ask for all teams report.
Order: "Team reports"

The result will be:

i.e.: "VSB 3 down, 6 up, operational". "VSB 7 down, 3 up, unable"

So 1) team name
2) number of players down - we will know how strong is enemy
3) number of players still alive, UP
4) operational status: operational or unable

That means, that VSB lost 3 players, but six are still able to fight and result is that VSB can continue in the action.

Responsibility for checking the current able or unable players in own teams is on leader and him backup. So leader will count his own players before start of battle and will reduce this number by death players. So every players which are killed will report name and live status.

I.e.: "Lordus is dead".

But dont forget, that this is internal information, so you may change this as you want, but purpose is to supply leader with short but enough information. Result is still teams reports.

As i wrote up, i think that we need more information about current team strenght, so the last word: operational or unable is important, because you can have 6 players up but without ammo or injured, or you can have only 3 up but they are capable to fight against enemy.

I know that only 1 player could fight against enemy, so definition of capable to fight against enemy = we are ready to attack 5 full equiped enemy.


--------------------> this is only suggestion. maybe it looks difficult, but it is very simple. also the words for orders or reporst could be changed for more shorter.

I think that this will helps us more in fight, then training in cave base map..

[Invité Naerk]

I agree totally this idea. I would add that standardization of ennemy announcements is also neccessary. How many time we have heard "ennemy at north !!" then there is only one bluesuit. The way of annoucement can be discuss, it could be like that : "Number of ennemy"-"equipement"-"location" For example : - 6 ennemies, full equip, left to general store - 3 ennemies, low equip, at main - 4 supermutants, 1 bluesuit, at east side